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Today the saddest day ever for Chargers fans
What number(s) do you think are wrong in the CBS article?— January 17, 2017 10:29 a.m.
Today the saddest day ever for Chargers fans
I think Spanos is grossly underestimating the overall support in the LA market and how difficult it will be to build a fan base in LA. I think I've even underestimated it. I thought that Angelinos would be apathetic towards the Chargers but from everything I'm reading it's much worse than that - Angelinos actually seem to hate the Chargers after what Spanos has done to SD. The Chargers logo was booed at a recent Lakers/Clippers game. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I don't think there will be more than 10,000 Chargers fans at ANY game in LA for at least the next few years. Maybe the next 10 years unless the team improves a lot. And for that to happen I think they have to get lucky in the draft and get a great successor to Rivers within a few years.— January 17, 2017 9:39 a.m.
Today the saddest day ever for Chargers fans
I suspect some of the NFL's rules regarding financing and ownership are in part intended to make teams seek corporate welfare - specifically for cases in which owners are asset rich and cash poor - well, relatively cash poor anyway - not able to easily come up with ~ 500M. It certainly seems to me like it should be trivial for a profitable business with a market value of ~ 2B and a very stable, predictable revenue stream to get a few hundred million for capital improvements. One could certainly look at the asset / debt sheets of many companies and see much more leveraged positions than what it would have taken for the Chargers to pony up money for their own stadium. I've heard somewhere there are rules against an owner using the team as collateral in any financing. I think the NFL wants to avoid situations like MLB had with the Dodgers, in which an owner siphons off the assets of the team and then declares bankruptcy. But I'm sure the NFL also likes to push the owners to push taxpayers for more money.— January 16, 2017 4:44 p.m.
Today the saddest day ever for Chargers fans
RACK HIM.— January 16, 2017 4:31 p.m.
Today the saddest day ever for Chargers fans
Yes, you have done more than almost anyone to advocate for fairness and to prevent the unjustified forced distribution of wealth to sports team owners. It just seems to me the antitrust exemption is the lynchpin to the whole thing. And if Mike Aguirre thinks it's a case worth fighting I would tend to agree with Mike. Sorry if I was a bit hard on you. You have been the best reporter in the nation on this issue - bar none.— January 16, 2017 4:31 p.m.
Today the saddest day ever for Chargers fans
Obviously to make social / legal change some time and money and effort needs to be spent. To be answer I find your answer rather shocking. I'm surprised you would suggest that it's not worth the bother and expense to try to change laws and legal precedents to stop the continued extortion of taxpayers. Do you care about the issue of public welfare for billionaires or not?— January 16, 2017 8:01 a.m.
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swell You may hate football or even sports in general and that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. But other people DO like football and sports. Maybe you're right that we're all being somehow brainwashed. Maybe anyone who thinks differently from you has been unwittingly manipulated by some vast conspriracy. Or maybe you should respect other people's wants and desires and tastes even if they're different from yours.— January 15, 2017 11:20 a.m.
Today the saddest day ever for Chargers fans
The same page as the Steeg article referenced by JustWondering also has a great piece by Mike Aguirre advocating that the city sue the NFL for antitrust violations. http://enewspaper.sandiegouniontribune.com/deskto…— January 15, 2017 11:14 a.m.
Today the saddest day ever for Chargers fans
I think if there was no anti-trust exemption for the NFL we would have an NFL (or similar league's) team in SD without having to make a large taxpayer contribution.— January 15, 2017 6:32 a.m.
Today the saddest day ever for Chargers fans
You and I don't agree with the city's position but it was probably aligned fairly closely with what the average San Diegan wanted. Not completely foolish. Spanos has clearly been dishonest but also grossly incompetent for a long time. John Moores was dishonest but was frankly pretty shrewd at it.— January 15, 2017 6:30 a.m.