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Happy Tummy

I disagree, Josh. It amazes me how many of you have misconstrued this story. Goo, there are so many holes in your logic I wouldn't know where to begin. I only recommend good burgers to friends who are either asking where to get a good burger, or whom I know to eat meat. Regarding my "pushing" things I love to "all" my friends, as I wrote in a previous article (and thank you for reading), that's called hyperbole, Officer, allow me to present my creative license. Regarding everyone's beef with whether or not I have had any specific run-ins with vegans, my answer is YES. I have known a handful of vegans, and I base my opinion on more than projections. I have over a dozen vegetarian/vegan friends -- these people, like most vegans and vegetarians, are not preachy. It is only the few, as mentioned in my story, who bug me. Just as it would bug any of them if I were to insist they eat meat. I repeat myself for the umpteenth time: I am not anti-vegetarian or anti-vegan. I am merely irritated with ANYONE, meat-eater, religious zealot other otherwise, who says that my choices are "wrong." Comprende?
— April 12, 2009 1:02 p.m.

Happy Tummy

stuntdouble, I believe I'm being accosted by one now. ;)
— April 9, 2009 4:51 p.m.

Happy Tummy

That is a great point, ageorgia, thank you for making it. You sound like a compassionate, thoughtful person. Your cats are lucky to have you. I agree that you are not being inconsistent, as you are consciously searching for meat products for your cats that were produced in a way you approve, while personally choosing not to eat meat yourself.
— April 9, 2009 4:50 p.m.

Happy Tummy

I can see that this is a very sore subject for you, stuntdouble, and I can appreciate why. But if you are a vegan who does not lecture other people on how to live, I don't understand why my thoughts so rubbed you the wrong way. If you "do" lecture people, then I can see how I might have hit a spot. Must I define the word hypocrite a third time? It means those who PREACH one thing and PRACTICE another. My story was not so much an "argument" as it is my personal (made public) thoughts about the many veggies and vegans I encounter, many of whom, as I already mentioned, are friends and family and not preachy or hypocritical. Living in Hillcrest and involved in the arts, I run across my fair share of vegetarians, some of whom are vegan. You are right again, that dietary choices come up in conversation naturally. So do lots of things. But this is not what this story is about. It is about those people who go above and beyond to "convert" others. If applied to any lifestyle choice, I'd have the same opinion. You are also right that meat eaters can be just as offensive as PETA-crazed militant vegans. People who tell others how to live their lives are annoying. That's my argument.
— April 9, 2009 1:16 p.m.

Happy Tummy

My sister feels the same way as you, frigga. But no worries, as Tiki pointed out in an earlier comment, every faction has its obnoxious members. I'm happy you enjoy my work, and I thank you for reading it. :)
— April 9, 2009 11:03 a.m.

Happy Tummy

Stuntdouble, clever phrasing, but you're missing the point. I'm not bothered when people choose to skip meat, that is their prerogative. I am only irritated by those who, as you so eloquently describe, think their way of life is superior, and feel compelled to lecture others. In your way, though you seem to have misunderstood the crux of the story, your comment is in wholehearted agreement with my thoughts on the issue. "Hypocrites" are only those who don't walk what they talk. And all of us, even me, are full of contradictions, as I have oft stated, and as I stated again in this column: "It’s not that I mind inconsistencies. We are all inconsistent on one point or another. It’s those who make a habit of haranguing others about their choices, those who are arrogant about their wholesomeness whom I find most annoying..." And regarding guilt, you may be correct. I was, after all, raised in the Catholic tradition. ;)
— April 9, 2009 11:01 a.m.

Happy Tummy

Pat, that's hilarious! I've got Italian family members in Jersey myself, and can vividly imagine your situation. Got me giggling over here.
— April 9, 2009 8:15 a.m.

Happy Tummy

Tiki, you make a good point in a convoluted way -- meat eaters can be just as obnoxious about forcing their lifestyle on others. It all has to do with the person. ;)
— April 9, 2009 8:14 a.m.

Happy Tummy

Thank you, refriedgringo, that's well worded, and I agree with you. I like to consider myself a "live and let live" sort of person, who occasionally balks when those who disagree with my lifestyle attempt to annoy me into adopting theirs. I too am religion-free, yet I respect the beliefs of all of my Catholic family members, and my "all of the above" father. ;)
— April 9, 2009 5:29 a.m.

Happy Tummy

Sarah, you missed a crucial point in this story, and that is that anyone who has specific food choices (as many of my friends and family do), who does not preach (as you do not) is not a hypocrite. It is only those people who lecture and preach, and whose lives (as with all of us) are filled with contradictions who I'm calling out here. A "militant" or "preachy" anything is off-putting to me, which is why I prefer the "Live and Let Die" folks I describe -- vegetarians or pescatarians or otherwise who make their own choices, live their own lives, and let others live theirs. I hope this helps to clarify for you, and thank you for reading!
— April 9, 2009 5:24 a.m.

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