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Oh, there's video, jray. You just don't see it. ;)
— April 16, 2009 9:07 a.m.
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It's not "technically" a naughty word, magics, my point is that people react to it as if it were. For example, my original title for this column was "Vagina Dialogues." Notice it is not anymore. ;)
— April 15, 2009 3:17 p.m.
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And did you have to point that out? ;) I wrote this before the veggie explosion. And it just so happens that those are the items our friends brought. Nothing sinister in that.
— April 15, 2009 2 p.m.
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lallaw, thank you for your kind and thoughtful posts. It's nice to get a little love. :)
— April 15, 2009 11:42 a.m.
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SDaniels, I like that you ended your thoughts with a suggestion to bring all of us together. For that, I will add a little fact that I left out of my column (one I didn't feel necessary to include, because when I set out to write this, it wasn't a piece about general dining/dinner party etiquette, so much as a rant about a particular faction of preaching extremists who annoy me). So here it is: Before inviting friends to dinner, David and I always ask if they have any dietary restrictions. For example, my friend Rosa is allergic to shellfish. I treat my friend Jessica's restriction to meat the same way I treat Rosa's restriction to shellfish, and no one goes home hungry. David knows how to cook excellent vegetarian food, as he was once a vegetarian. It is true that when shellfish or meat are in the house, neither Jessica nor Rosa bat a lash, for they are as accepting of my dietary choices as I am mindful of theirs. Otherwise, we probably wouldn't be friends. Mike1, I too am an atheist. I have suffered the attentions of fanatical Christians who have attempted to convert me (three of whom tried more than once -- there must be some kind of prize they get for saving extreme sinners). With the religion analogy in mind, I can understand what you mean by the pervasive aggression against vegans. I could have just as easily written an article about the three categories of meat-eaters, fitting myself into one. But I didn't. Maybe some day I will. For now, this is the one I wrote after the cat-lady vegetarian lectured me. These were the thoughts I had. People may agree with my thoughts or disagree with them, but I had them nonetheless. I'll start working on a menu for that dinner party, SDaniels. Wait a minute! I forgot I don't cook. I'll see if David's up for it. ;)
— April 14, 2009 2:47 p.m.
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Josh, are you straight-up calling me a liar? Like if I don't provide specific examples with dates and times and hidden camera footage of each instance that I have been confronted then your only obvious conclusion is that it never happened? My column is not an academic dissertation, nor am I providing evidence in a court of law. My story is not about "a time a militant vegan lectured me," it is an abstract compilation of many experiences, good and bad, from my time both here in San Diego, and the years I lived in West Hollywood. If it makes you all feel better to imagine that I have never encountered a vegan or vegetarian who lectured me or demonstrated hypocrisy, go right ahead. But don't try to tell me that I haven't had the experiences I've had. You have no idea. And I'm not going to catalog my life just for the sake of others telling me it's okay for me to have my opinions. As MSNavorro said, there's no point in talking to walls. Cheers.
— April 13, 2009 11:33 a.m.
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Wow, you are the analytical one, MSNavarro. I'm honored that my words are being examined as a scholarly work. Responding to your #74: Militant Vegans ARE a smug bunch. Not every vegan is a "militant vegan." This is my opinion, based on my experiences. You have every right to disagree.
— April 13, 2009 9:48 a.m.
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MSNavarro: Apparently not everyone who shops at Whole Foods and Trader Joe's is anti-meat (myself included). I get most of my groceries from those places because I prefer to buy organic, and I find the quality of the food is better than that at most standard grocery stores. Plus, Whole Foods has an exceptional cheese selection.
— April 13, 2009 9:43 a.m.
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MSNavarro, I'm tired of repeating myself, so now I will cut and paste. From comment #18: "My story was not so much an "argument" as it is my personal (made public) thoughts about the many veggies and vegans I encounter, many of whom, as I already mentioned, are friends and family and not preachy or hypocritical...People who tell others how to live their lives are annoying. That's my argument." I invite you to re-read the name of my column, particularly the first word: DIARY. I am not "anti-vegetarian/vegan," I'm "anti-bad-manners."
— April 13, 2009 7:54 a.m.
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Stuntdouble, Goo, Josh, etc., thirsty for a specific example of a judgmental, glaring vegan? See Comment #65 by mike1.
— April 12, 2009 10:09 p.m.
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Junk Talk
Oh, there's video, jray. You just don't see it. ;)— April 16, 2009 9:07 a.m.
Junk Talk
It's not "technically" a naughty word, magics, my point is that people react to it as if it were. For example, my original title for this column was "Vagina Dialogues." Notice it is not anymore. ;)— April 15, 2009 3:17 p.m.
Junk Talk
And did you have to point that out? ;) I wrote this before the veggie explosion. And it just so happens that those are the items our friends brought. Nothing sinister in that.— April 15, 2009 2 p.m.
Happy Tummy
lallaw, thank you for your kind and thoughtful posts. It's nice to get a little love. :)— April 15, 2009 11:42 a.m.
Happy Tummy
SDaniels, I like that you ended your thoughts with a suggestion to bring all of us together. For that, I will add a little fact that I left out of my column (one I didn't feel necessary to include, because when I set out to write this, it wasn't a piece about general dining/dinner party etiquette, so much as a rant about a particular faction of preaching extremists who annoy me). So here it is: Before inviting friends to dinner, David and I always ask if they have any dietary restrictions. For example, my friend Rosa is allergic to shellfish. I treat my friend Jessica's restriction to meat the same way I treat Rosa's restriction to shellfish, and no one goes home hungry. David knows how to cook excellent vegetarian food, as he was once a vegetarian. It is true that when shellfish or meat are in the house, neither Jessica nor Rosa bat a lash, for they are as accepting of my dietary choices as I am mindful of theirs. Otherwise, we probably wouldn't be friends. Mike1, I too am an atheist. I have suffered the attentions of fanatical Christians who have attempted to convert me (three of whom tried more than once -- there must be some kind of prize they get for saving extreme sinners). With the religion analogy in mind, I can understand what you mean by the pervasive aggression against vegans. I could have just as easily written an article about the three categories of meat-eaters, fitting myself into one. But I didn't. Maybe some day I will. For now, this is the one I wrote after the cat-lady vegetarian lectured me. These were the thoughts I had. People may agree with my thoughts or disagree with them, but I had them nonetheless. I'll start working on a menu for that dinner party, SDaniels. Wait a minute! I forgot I don't cook. I'll see if David's up for it. ;)— April 14, 2009 2:47 p.m.
Happy Tummy
Josh, are you straight-up calling me a liar? Like if I don't provide specific examples with dates and times and hidden camera footage of each instance that I have been confronted then your only obvious conclusion is that it never happened? My column is not an academic dissertation, nor am I providing evidence in a court of law. My story is not about "a time a militant vegan lectured me," it is an abstract compilation of many experiences, good and bad, from my time both here in San Diego, and the years I lived in West Hollywood. If it makes you all feel better to imagine that I have never encountered a vegan or vegetarian who lectured me or demonstrated hypocrisy, go right ahead. But don't try to tell me that I haven't had the experiences I've had. You have no idea. And I'm not going to catalog my life just for the sake of others telling me it's okay for me to have my opinions. As MSNavorro said, there's no point in talking to walls. Cheers.— April 13, 2009 11:33 a.m.
Happy Tummy
Wow, you are the analytical one, MSNavarro. I'm honored that my words are being examined as a scholarly work. Responding to your #74: Militant Vegans ARE a smug bunch. Not every vegan is a "militant vegan." This is my opinion, based on my experiences. You have every right to disagree.— April 13, 2009 9:48 a.m.
Happy Tummy
MSNavarro: Apparently not everyone who shops at Whole Foods and Trader Joe's is anti-meat (myself included). I get most of my groceries from those places because I prefer to buy organic, and I find the quality of the food is better than that at most standard grocery stores. Plus, Whole Foods has an exceptional cheese selection.— April 13, 2009 9:43 a.m.
Happy Tummy
MSNavarro, I'm tired of repeating myself, so now I will cut and paste. From comment #18: "My story was not so much an "argument" as it is my personal (made public) thoughts about the many veggies and vegans I encounter, many of whom, as I already mentioned, are friends and family and not preachy or hypocritical...People who tell others how to live their lives are annoying. That's my argument." I invite you to re-read the name of my column, particularly the first word: DIARY. I am not "anti-vegetarian/vegan," I'm "anti-bad-manners."— April 13, 2009 7:54 a.m.
Happy Tummy
Stuntdouble, Goo, Josh, etc., thirsty for a specific example of a judgmental, glaring vegan? See Comment #65 by mike1.— April 12, 2009 10:09 p.m.