Anchor ads are not supported on this page.

4S Ranch Allied Gardens Alpine Baja Balboa Park Bankers Hill Barrio Logan Bay Ho Bay Park Black Mountain Ranch Blossom Valley Bonita Bonsall Borrego Springs Boulevard Campo Cardiff-by-the-Sea Carlsbad Carmel Mountain Carmel Valley Chollas View Chula Vista City College City Heights Clairemont College Area Coronado CSU San Marcos Cuyamaca College Del Cerro Del Mar Descanso Downtown San Diego Eastlake East Village El Cajon Emerald Hills Encanto Encinitas Escondido Fallbrook Fletcher Hills Golden Hill Grant Hill Grantville Grossmont College Guatay Harbor Island Hillcrest Imperial Beach Imperial Valley Jacumba Jamacha-Lomita Jamul Julian Kearny Mesa Kensington La Jolla Lakeside La Mesa Lemon Grove Leucadia Liberty Station Lincoln Acres Lincoln Park Linda Vista Little Italy Logan Heights Mesa College Midway District MiraCosta College Miramar Miramar College Mira Mesa Mission Beach Mission Hills Mission Valley Mountain View Mount Hope Mount Laguna National City Nestor Normal Heights North Park Oak Park Ocean Beach Oceanside Old Town Otay Mesa Pacific Beach Pala Palomar College Palomar Mountain Paradise Hills Pauma Valley Pine Valley Point Loma Point Loma Nazarene Potrero Poway Rainbow Ramona Rancho Bernardo Rancho Penasquitos Rancho San Diego Rancho Santa Fe Rolando San Carlos San Marcos San Onofre Santa Ysabel Santee San Ysidro Scripps Ranch SDSU Serra Mesa Shelltown Shelter Island Sherman Heights Skyline Solana Beach Sorrento Valley Southcrest South Park Southwestern College Spring Valley Stockton Talmadge Temecula Tierrasanta Tijuana UCSD University City University Heights USD Valencia Park Valley Center Vista Warner Springs

Where did they come up with the amount $271 for traffic tickets?

Oh, Ma-a-a-att:

There is a $271 fine for driving in the carpool lane on my local freeway. I believe that figure is posted as the fine for varied other infractions of traffic law. Um -- $271? Where did they come up with that amount? Just a number picked at random? Or the result of political sausage-making, the details of which we might just be happier not knowing.

Sponsored
Sponsored

-- Spikey Mikey, the net

Ooooh, yeah, Spikey, the bureaucracy's got its mitts all over this one. Traffic fines have been a reliable revenue-raiser since the state economy began to tank in the early '90s. Fines are set by the state's Traffic Advisory Committee, appointees of the Chief Justice of the California Supreme Court. That's a group of judges, cops, and attorneys who sit down at the end of California's legislative year -- right about now, s'matterafact -- and look at any new laws and calculate what's called a uniform bail schedule, making sure the new fines are consistent with existing fines. They circulate the proposal around to other judges and cops and attorneys, then send the finished product to the California Judicial Council, an arm of the state court system, for adoption.

So that's our little diagram of how a fine becomes a law, but why a $271 law instead of a tidy, even $250 law? Each fine is made up of a bail amount and a penalty. The bail amount is what it costs you for the privilege of walking around free until your court date comes up. The penalty is what should keep you from breaking the law again. The penalty is also what the state legislature added in 1991 to bring in some desperately needed cash. In their wisdom, they decided that for every $10 worth of bail, we'd have to pay $17 in penalties ($10 to go to the state, $7 to the county where you did the deed), with a buck for the courts.

Since the Traffic Advisory Committee sees to it that bail amounts are equal for similar transgressions, you'll end up with a lot of the same fine amounts. F'rinstance, your $271 car pool violation. That's $100 bail plus $170 penalty plus the buck for the court. Need I mention that fines in highway construction zones are doubled, and you can't weasel out of tickets now by going to traffic school? So the system is everything an irate citizen could hope for: a bureaucratic rat's nest, a financial hustle, and a steel trap from which no citizen can escape with his wallet intact. I can smell the outrage from here.

The latest copy of the Reader

Here's something you might be interested in.
Submit a free classified
or view all
Previous article

Secrets of Resilience in May's Unforgettable Memoir

Next Article

Memories of bonfires amid the pits off Palm

Before it was Ocean View Hills, it was party central

Oh, Ma-a-a-att:

There is a $271 fine for driving in the carpool lane on my local freeway. I believe that figure is posted as the fine for varied other infractions of traffic law. Um -- $271? Where did they come up with that amount? Just a number picked at random? Or the result of political sausage-making, the details of which we might just be happier not knowing.

Sponsored
Sponsored

-- Spikey Mikey, the net

Ooooh, yeah, Spikey, the bureaucracy's got its mitts all over this one. Traffic fines have been a reliable revenue-raiser since the state economy began to tank in the early '90s. Fines are set by the state's Traffic Advisory Committee, appointees of the Chief Justice of the California Supreme Court. That's a group of judges, cops, and attorneys who sit down at the end of California's legislative year -- right about now, s'matterafact -- and look at any new laws and calculate what's called a uniform bail schedule, making sure the new fines are consistent with existing fines. They circulate the proposal around to other judges and cops and attorneys, then send the finished product to the California Judicial Council, an arm of the state court system, for adoption.

So that's our little diagram of how a fine becomes a law, but why a $271 law instead of a tidy, even $250 law? Each fine is made up of a bail amount and a penalty. The bail amount is what it costs you for the privilege of walking around free until your court date comes up. The penalty is what should keep you from breaking the law again. The penalty is also what the state legislature added in 1991 to bring in some desperately needed cash. In their wisdom, they decided that for every $10 worth of bail, we'd have to pay $17 in penalties ($10 to go to the state, $7 to the county where you did the deed), with a buck for the courts.

Since the Traffic Advisory Committee sees to it that bail amounts are equal for similar transgressions, you'll end up with a lot of the same fine amounts. F'rinstance, your $271 car pool violation. That's $100 bail plus $170 penalty plus the buck for the court. Need I mention that fines in highway construction zones are doubled, and you can't weasel out of tickets now by going to traffic school? So the system is everything an irate citizen could hope for: a bureaucratic rat's nest, a financial hustle, and a steel trap from which no citizen can escape with his wallet intact. I can smell the outrage from here.

Comments
Sponsored

The latest copy of the Reader

Here's something you might be interested in.
Submit a free classified
or view all
Previous article

Aaron Stewart trades Christmas wonders for his first new music in 15 years

“Just because the job part was done, didn’t mean the passion had to die”
Next Article

Bringing Order to the Christmas Chaos

There is a sense of grandeur in Messiah that period performance mavens miss.
Comments
Ask a Hipster — Advice you didn't know you needed Big Screen — Movie commentary Blurt — Music's inside track Booze News — San Diego spirits Classical Music — Immortal beauty Classifieds — Free and easy Cover Stories — Front-page features Drinks All Around — Bartenders' drink recipes Excerpts — Literary and spiritual excerpts Feast! — Food & drink reviews Feature Stories — Local news & stories Fishing Report — What’s getting hooked from ship and shore From the Archives — Spotlight on the past Golden Dreams — Talk of the town The Gonzo Report — Making the musical scene, or at least reporting from it Letters — Our inbox Movies@Home — Local movie buffs share favorites Movie Reviews — Our critics' picks and pans Musician Interviews — Up close with local artists Neighborhood News from Stringers — Hyperlocal news News Ticker — News & politics Obermeyer — San Diego politics illustrated Outdoors — Weekly changes in flora and fauna Overheard in San Diego — Eavesdropping illustrated Poetry — The old and the new Reader Travel — Travel section built by travelers Reading — The hunt for intellectuals Roam-O-Rama — SoCal's best hiking/biking trails San Diego Beer — Inside San Diego suds SD on the QT — Almost factual news Sheep and Goats — Places of worship Special Issues — The best of Street Style — San Diego streets have style Surf Diego — Real stories from those braving the waves Theater — On stage in San Diego this week Tin Fork — Silver spoon alternative Under the Radar — Matt Potter's undercover work Unforgettable — Long-ago San Diego Unreal Estate — San Diego's priciest pads Your Week — Daily event picks
4S Ranch Allied Gardens Alpine Baja Balboa Park Bankers Hill Barrio Logan Bay Ho Bay Park Black Mountain Ranch Blossom Valley Bonita Bonsall Borrego Springs Boulevard Campo Cardiff-by-the-Sea Carlsbad Carmel Mountain Carmel Valley Chollas View Chula Vista City College City Heights Clairemont College Area Coronado CSU San Marcos Cuyamaca College Del Cerro Del Mar Descanso Downtown San Diego Eastlake East Village El Cajon Emerald Hills Encanto Encinitas Escondido Fallbrook Fletcher Hills Golden Hill Grant Hill Grantville Grossmont College Guatay Harbor Island Hillcrest Imperial Beach Imperial Valley Jacumba Jamacha-Lomita Jamul Julian Kearny Mesa Kensington La Jolla Lakeside La Mesa Lemon Grove Leucadia Liberty Station Lincoln Acres Lincoln Park Linda Vista Little Italy Logan Heights Mesa College Midway District MiraCosta College Miramar Miramar College Mira Mesa Mission Beach Mission Hills Mission Valley Mountain View Mount Hope Mount Laguna National City Nestor Normal Heights North Park Oak Park Ocean Beach Oceanside Old Town Otay Mesa Pacific Beach Pala Palomar College Palomar Mountain Paradise Hills Pauma Valley Pine Valley Point Loma Point Loma Nazarene Potrero Poway Rainbow Ramona Rancho Bernardo Rancho Penasquitos Rancho San Diego Rancho Santa Fe Rolando San Carlos San Marcos San Onofre Santa Ysabel Santee San Ysidro Scripps Ranch SDSU Serra Mesa Shelltown Shelter Island Sherman Heights Skyline Solana Beach Sorrento Valley Southcrest South Park Southwestern College Spring Valley Stockton Talmadge Temecula Tierrasanta Tijuana UCSD University City University Heights USD Valencia Park Valley Center Vista Warner Springs
Close

Anchor ads are not supported on this page.

This Week’s Reader This Week’s Reader